Charli xcx on the New Meaning Behind the 'Sympathy Is a Knife' Remix — and How Ariana Grande Embodies It (Exclusive)

Charli's remix album, 'Brat and it's completely different but also still brat,' is out Oct. 11

When Charli xcx was looking for the right person to feature on a remix for "Sympathy Is a Knife," she thought of Ariana Grande.

In a clip shared exclusively with PEOPLE from the "360" singer's interview with Apple Music's Zane Lowe, she opens up about how she found common ground with Grande.

"I think what's interesting about the remix album... is I was writing the original record when I was in a very different position than I am post the release of Brat working on the remix album. So my perspective has changed a lot," Charli, 32, says.

Since the success of Brat, Charli found herself under the spotlight like never before — and she's had to learn to navigate it.

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"From where I was to now, I'm definitely finding more than ever that my words are being picked apart, taken out of context. I offend a lot more people by doing exactly the same things," she says. "Nothing groundbreaking here, but I suppose because no one really cared too much before what I was doing on a personal day-to-day level."

This experience gave her "empathy for bigger artists who go through that on a daily basis."

"It's hard. It's hard to be constantly scrutinized for things that you have said. It's hard for your words to be taken out of context and then really kind of feel that you just can't defend yourself because that would open a whole other can of worms."

Because of this, the remix of "Sympathy Is a Knife" became about her understanding that "you are only really knowledgeable about your own position" — but it's hard to complain.

"I had heard that Ari wanted to do something and I was like, this is somebody who definitely knows this feeling moreso than me," she says of the "Eternal Sunshine" singer, 31.

"So when she wanted to kind of take this phrase, it's a knife, obviously, we're so lucky and blessed to be in the situation that we are in — all artists who are able to make music at the level that they're making it financially support themselves from creating art. It's like we are lucky because not all artists get that."

The full episode with Lowe is out Tuesday, Oct. 8 at 1 p.m. ET on Apple Music.

Related: Charli xcx Brings Out Lorde as Surprise Guest During N.Y.C. Sweat Tour with Troye Sivan

The singer-songwriter — who is currently on her Sweat Tour with Sivan — released the full track list to her remix album on Instagram on Oct. 7.

The features include Robyn & Yung Lean, BB trickz, Grande, The 1975 and Jon Hopkins, Troye Sivan, Addison Rae, Caroline Polachek, Bladee, A.G. Cook, Lorde, The Japanese House, Tinashe, Julian Casablancas, Bon Iver, Shygirl and Billie Eilish.

Brat and it's completely different but also still brat, out Oct. 11, has been teased on Billboards around the world featuring the guest names in Brat font and a lime green background.

Charli previously released a music video to the "Guess" remix with Eilish, and most recently, "Talk Talk" with Sivan. She also released the remix to "Von Dutch" with Rae and A.G. Cook, as well as "Girl, So Confusing" featuring Lorde.

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