"He Was Like 'This Is A Safe Space'...NO It Was Not." — People Are Standing Up For Trisha Paytas After Her Recent Interview With Rainn Wilson Got So Much Negative Attention

Trisha Paytas is an influencer who has been successful on multiple social media platforms, including YouTube and hosting her podcast, Just Trish.

Trisha Paytas in a glamorous, voluminous pink outfit with a tulle skirt, poses confidently on a stage with a backdrop of stairs
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And, recently, she sat down with Rainn Wilson on his Soul Boom podcast to talk more deeply about her life and fame.

Trisha Paytas is seated in a podcast studio, wearing a plaid shirt. A certificate and plant are visible in the background
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One moment from the podcast that has a lot of people talking is when Trisha opened up about a psychotic break she had in September of 2021. "I went on Twitter, it wasn't even YouTube, and I was screaming, sobbing, like I couldn't control myself — I couldn't breathe. Just like shouting at people to leave me alone," she shared.

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Soul Boom / youtube.com

Right away, Rainn interrupts her, saying, "Let me just pause you right there. What is it about you...and I'm trying to really understand this. 'I'm so activated, I'm so triggered, I'm so angry, I'm so overwhelmed, I'm about to just lose my shit, I'm gonna have a psychotic break. But I gotta log in and hit live stream and put it on the tripod — and make sure my light is on. Now I'm going to have the psychotic break.' What's the deal with that, though? What is that impulse? Is it 'cause you're getting that reward from doing it? The more you have nervous breakdowns online, then the money truck backs up?"

Rainn with glasses and a beard is gesturing and speaking into a microphone. Text reads: "That's such a weird self-fulfilling, like circle"
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Trisha also shared that she has borderline personality disorder. "I have trouble regulating my emotions. I thought relationships were more intense than they were. I would have these fantasies, but also, like, I would disassociate at the same time. So there was delusion, disassociation, and a lot happening," she explained.

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Soul Boom / youtube.com

At another point in the interview, Rainn also tells Trisha, "Three years without a gigantic online breakdown...feel free to have one here, though!"

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Soul Boom / youtube.com

Over the past few days, people have started resharing clips from the podcast on TikTok, saying Rainn was condescending to Trish.

Comments discussing an interview: One feels the interviewer was dismissive, while another criticizes the Rainn as Gen X and thinking all influencers are annoying
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And others, like TikToker cootyqueen13 who has garnered over 600,000 views — and a response from Trisha — are sharing their thoughts: "Everything she [Trish] was saying and sharing, there were so many moments where he would pause her and mock her for posting it online."

Comment by trishapaytas thanking someone for their support, mentioning unfamiliarity with part of their life and the lore. 41.1K likes
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Some users have even gone viral with their skits reenacting the interview, like @pogsyy whose video has over a million views.

Comment by trishapaytas: "The impression was my fav. And thank you for this ?... Opening up in general, not easy for me these days"
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In general, people are pointing out how celebrities experience fame in a totally different way than influencers.

Comment by bedoybeboo: "This is so interesting. Two very different kinds of fame are colliding"
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And a lot of people feel celebrities lack authenticity.

Comment by ShleyKing reads, "Media training vs authenticity" with a laughing emoji
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There were more than a few moments that people say were out of touch and disingenuous.

Social media comment by user djkelxgnf2c: "This exactly. He was like 'this is a safe space' and it made my skin crawl because no it was NOT"
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However, despite the uncomfortable moments, Trisha was applauded for how she handled the interview overall.

Text exchange: MC comments on a place being a "production." Mama S responds about maintaining boundaries and respect
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You can watch the full podcast below. Let us know your thoughts in the comments!