Oprah: Queen, Prince Phillip not part of skin colour discussion

Oprah has clarified shocking claims made by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in Monday's bombshell CBS interview that a member of the royal family had shared concerns about their son Archie's skin tone.

While both Prince Harry and Meghan Markle declined to name the person who made the comments during the two-hour tell-all chat, talk show queen Oprah, 67, has since shed more light on the matter.

Oprah has clarified Harry and Meghan's claims that a royal family member expressed 'concerns' over their son Archie's skin tone. Photo: CBS This Morning.
Oprah has clarified Harry and Meghan's claims that a royal family member expressed 'concerns' over their son Archie's skin tone. Photo: CBS This Morning.

Appearing on CBS This Morning the morning after the interview, Oprah told host and friend Gayle King that Harry, 37, wouldn't identify the royal family member — even when the cameras stopped rolling.

He did, however, make it clear that neither his grandmother, the Queen, nor his grandfather, Prince Philip were 'part of those conversations' about 22-month-old Archie's skin tone.

"There's a big guessing game all around the world, 'Who was it, who was it, who was it?'" Gayle said to Oprah.

"I thought it was very touching that Harry still is choosing to protect the identity of whoever that was," she added.

"He did not share the identity with me," Oprah replied.

"But he wanted to make sure that I knew, and if I had an opportunity to share it, that it was not his grandmother, nor his grandfather that were part of those conversations...

"He did not tell me who were a part of those conversations. As you could see I tried to get that answer, on-camera and off."


'Concerns' over skin colour

Mum-to-be Meghan, 39, made the admission about the 'concerns' over her firstborn's skin tone while discussing why Archie wouldn't be given a title — and therefore would not be afforded any security protection — before he was born.

"And also concerns and conversations about how dark [Archie's] skin might be when he is born," Meghan said.

"Who is having that conversation with you?" an incredulous Oprah asked the Duchess.

Meghan refused to tell her who it was with, saying it would be 'damaging' for that person.

"That was relayed to me by Harry that was conversations family had with him," she clarified.

"Was the concern he would be too brown?" Oprah asked.

"I wasn't able to follow up why, but if that's the assumption you're making it feels like a pretty safe one," she responded.

prince harry and son archie
Harry and Meghan moved to Canada then the US with Archie. Photo: Instagram/sussexroyal

Meghan went on to explain her shock at the fact the first member of colour for the royal family would not be given the same title as others in the family.

"The idea of our son not being safe, and the idea of the first member of colour in this family not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be – you know the other piece of that is this convention is that when you’re the grandchild of the monarch (when Prince Charles becomes King), automatically Archie and our next baby would become prince or princess… It’s not their right to take it away … They wanted to change that convention, for Archie," she said.

"I mean, why?”

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Meghan shocked Oprah with the conversation. Photo: CBS

Harry 'will never reveal' royal conversation about Archie's skin

Later on in the interview, Meghan was joined by Harry who was adamant he would never reveal who he had the controversial conversation with.

"I’m never going to share," he told the TV host. "But at the time... at the time it was awkward. I was a bit shocked."

"Can you tell us what the question was?" she pushed.

"No, I’m not comfortable sharing that," he said.

Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, pose with their newborn son Archie
Harry and Meghan pose with their newborn son Archie in 2019. Photo: Getty

What he did reveal, was that it was one of the pinnacle moments that set him and Meghan on their path of deciding to step down as senior royals.

"Because that was that was right at the beginning," Harry said.

"When she wasn't going to get security, when members of my family were suggesting that she carries on acting because there's not enough money to pay for her, and all this sort of stuff like there were some really obvious signs before we even got married that this was going to be really hard."

Additional reporting by Kristine Tarbert.

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