James Fisher-Harris has never forgotten the pain of being knocked back by the Warriors as a teenager.
Not so much for what it meant for his football career, but for the years it cost the Penrith prop of being close to family in New Zealand.
A Warriors fan growing up, Fisher-Harris rode the wave of the club's last fairytale run through to the NRL final in 2011 from his family home in Northland.
The Kiwi international lists Ben Matulino and Sam Rapira as the players he loved the most, and credits that Warriors side as the one that inspired him to start playing rugby league at the age of 15.
The 27-year-old is happy to see the Warriors back in the end-of-season skirmish ahead of the Panthers' qualifying final against them on Saturday afternoon at BlueBet Stadium.
But like so many other New Zealanders, Fisher-Harris can be seen as one that got away for the Warriors.
Now one of the most consistently dominant props in the NRL, the 16-year-old Fisher-Harris trialled against Warriors development teams in front of club legend Stacey Jones.
Overlooked by the Auckland outfit, Fisher-Harris was scooped up soon after by manager Darryl Mather, joining Phil Gould as part of Penrith's 'next generation'.
Fisher-Harris holds no hard feelings for the Warriors or Jones over the decision, conceding he was still fresh to rugby league.
But he also makes no secret of the fact the decision stung him, with the ramifications for the self-confessed "mummy's boy" sticking with him ever since.
"It hurt," Fisher-Harris told AAP. "It definitely gave me an edge when they overlooked me.
"But that would be like every Kiwi who has come over to Australia. It is kind of hard to have the whole of New Zealand in one development.
"I missed heaps of opportunities to be with family. You can't take that back. It's sat with me forever."
Within two years of moving to Penrith, Fisher-Harris was picked in the Junior Kiwis team.
The following season, he was debuting for the Panthers on a quickfire journey from Warriors discard to New Zealand Test representative.
"It's hard, I don't know how they do their scouting. But that's why so many New Zealand players come over here for the opportunity," Fisher-Harris said.
"They came and looked, but they had their players in their development academy. I didn't get chosen.
"I don't knock them, because I was raw as. I didn't know what I was doing. I'd just started playing rugby league at 15."
Family separation aside, Fisher-Harris has no regrets over his career path. But the Warriors may still wish they had their time over.
"I still talk to Stacey, it's all good. That's just how it is," Fisher-Harris said.
"It was a blessing in disguise. I came to Penrith and worked my way away from family. I was a big mummy's boy. I had to stand on my own two feet.
"The harder route ... it was probably meant to be."