Having helmed some of our all-time favourite blockbusters Jaws, E.T: The Extra-Terrestrial, Indiana Jones and Jurassic Park, Steven Spielberg is still keeping busy behind the camera with his most recent Hollywood hit War Horse
The multi award-winning director talks about the new wartime film and what it was like translating the story from successful play and novel into a Hollywood hit.
It’s very rare that a project is successful as a novel, as a play and as a movie – but War Horse is all three. Why do you think the story is so versatile?
The bones of the story of War Horse is a love story. That’s what makes it universal. It was that way in the book and it was certainly that way on the boards in the West End of London. That’s also what we hoped to create with our movie adaptation.
What makes War Horse unique?
I don’t often mix my metaphors, so what makes this movie unique is the fact that it’s a story of love and a story of war. This isn’t a typical war film. This is not Saving Private Ryan. This isn’t Band Of Brothers. If you really look at this movie, there are only 12 to 15 minutes of combat from the cavalry charge to the fighting in the Somme. I wanted families to see this picture together. That’s why there’s hardly any blood in this movie.
What do you think younger audiences will learn from watching the movie?
Children learn exponentially from media today, so we felt responsible for there to be truth in the history of the first World War in our adaptation. We did a lot of research and the thing that really struck me was the vast number of casualties among the horses. It wasn’t just the men who died on the American, British, French and German side – but there was a huge number of casualties among the horses, too. I think kids will be interested to learn that this was the era where the machine – the tank, the airplane and even chemical warfare – all converged. It was almost like an experimental war. It was the war to end all wars. At least, that’s what they thought back then.
Why do you have such a fondness of telling historical stories?
I love history. To be honest, it was the only subject I did well at in school. My dad fought in World War II and he turned 95 in 2012. He was based in Karachi, which is now Pakistan, and he fought in Burma against the Japanese – and I used to love it when he told me war stories. My first 8- millimeter movies when I was 13, 14 and 15 years old were mostly about war.
Another point to add is that war throws characters into chaos. There’s no better way to test a person than to put them in the middle of a war. That’s clearly going to show what kind of a character you’re telling a story about.
What made the young actor Jeremy Irvine – who plays Albert Norcross in the movie – stand out during the casting process for War Horse?
I looked at hundreds of potential Alberts, but Jeremy Irvine stood out because he had an ineffable quality that certain stars have – or certain exceptional people have – that makes them stand out and rise above the rest. I looked at hundreds of very interesting actors and newcomers, but nobody had the heart or the spirit or the communication skills that Jeremy had.
I’m very accustomed to working with actors who have no experience. You can look back at E.T. with Drew Barrymore and Christian Bale in Empire Of The Sun to see that. They had never made a movie before, but I see a very similar career in store for Jeremy.
What is the appeal of newcomers?
Often what happens is you get a newcomer in front of the camera and they freeze up or they imitate actors and other performances they’ve admired and they stop becoming themselves. My job as a director is always to return them to what I first saw in them, which was simply an uncensored human being. I really trust the authenticity of real people and my job is to get them to be themselves in front of the camera.
The movie doesn’t shy away from the fact that many horses suffered during World War I. How did you manage to portray this without harming any animals?
Nothing was ever done to the horses to put them under any stress. That was very, very important to all of us. Bobby Lovgren is the name of the man who trained the horses and guarded the horses – and it was incredibly important to him to keep them safe and protected. We also had a woman from the Humane Society on set every single shooting day. When I first met Barbara, I said to her, “You’ve got the power over me.” She replied, “What do you mean?” I said, “If you ever see an animal under any kind of duress, you can say ‘Cut.’” I gave her the chance to stop a take or to even stop a take from even being taken.
Did you dip into childhood memories of directing heroes like John Ford when you were making the movie?
Yes, of course. My heroes are John Ford, Howard Hawks, Raoul Walsh, David Lean, Lewis Milestone, Victor Fleming, Michael Curtiz – and many more than that, too. It goes beyond American directors because this is a very British film, so I was incredibly inspired by Britain. At the same time, the works of John Ford in How Green Was My Valley and The Quiet Man were very evocative.
He painted beautiful landscapes and he included the land as part of his storytelling, so how could we not include Devon and Dartmoor in this picture? The land was a character itself and in a sense, that’s what a lot of the old directors did – they featured the land they were standing on. It’s fun when you get to put on a wideangle lens and not just shoot close ups for an entire movie.
Scarcely has the English landscape looked so great on film. What were your initial reactions to the movie shoot locations in Devon and Castle Combe?
Castle Combe looks like Hollywood built it. It doesn’t look real, but it’s beautiful, it’s very authentic and it’s very old. The Devon location has some of the most natural wonders in all of England with its beautiful tors. The tors are built up in a very unusual way and I’ve only seen something like this one other time in my life – and that was in New Zealand. There’s nothing in the world like the landscapes of Devon. We couldn’t believe our eyes.
The English weather is notoriously unpredictable. Did you use any digital manipulation to depict the glorious skies in the movie?
People often tell me how much they love the digital skies that we obviously painted for War Horse. Well, there’s not a single sky that we put in through special effects. The skies you see in the movie are the skies that we experienced – but it was definitely challenging at times. It took three days to shoot the spectacular sunset at the end of the movie because the sun goes down awfully fast in Devon. We had to come back again and again to get matching skies to make that whole sequence work, but it was all worth it.
The music has a huge emotional impact in War Horse. Can you talk about your work with the movie’s composer, John Williams?
John and I have had a 40-year relationship. We started working together in 1972 on Sugarland Express and he is the most important collaborator I’ve ever had in my career. He’s made me look good. I get a lot of credit that really should be going to John.
Do you tend to work with the same creative teams over and over again?
I do, and they now feel like family. War Horse producer Kathleen Kennedy has been with me since 1978. My cinematographer, Janusz Kaminski, has made every movie with me since Schindler’s List. Michael Kahn has cut every motion picture I’ve directed since 1976 when we made Close Encounters together. Rick Carter has worked as a production designer on 15 of my directed films.
I really believe in the family of collaboration and so John Williams is certainly no less or no more important than the entire group of all of us. However, Johnny does make a contribution that goes right to your heart... John certainly has the most considerable impact because his music immediately bypasses the brain. It goes right to your heart. He’s an amazing talent.
Are you familiar with horses? Do you ride?We have 10 horses at home, and we’ve been living with horses for almost 18 years. In fact, my wife rides dressage – and that’s another reason to qualify me to direct War Horse because I know horses that way. I don’t ride, but I certainly know how to muck a stable.